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BeitragVerfasst am: 11.04.2010 22:36    Titel:  

The 50c2C-SO on piece

Here is a small selection of this relatively rare stamp. The 1949 dates are consistent with its normal use.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 11.04.2010 22:37    Titel:  

The 50c1L5z-SO on piece

This selection shows usages from 1955 and 1956.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 11.04.2010 22:38    Titel:  

Slightly doubled overpint on two 1p2C-SO stamps on piece

The first piece also bears a 50c2C-SO.


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Here is the 1p stamp.


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And here is a detail of the overprint.


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The second piece has a 2pNGR-SO and a pair of the 25cCL-SO, the clay printing.


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Here is a detail of the 1p stamp.


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And here is a detail of the overprint showing doubling.


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The 2 pesos has an overprint with a minor break to the V of SERVICIO.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 11.04.2010 22:38    Titel:  

High value 'Servicio Oficial' issues on piece

A single 1 peso stamp.


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A 2pNGR-SO selection.


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The 5pNGR-SO.


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Two pieces with pairs of the regular issue 5P1L2 each with 50c 'SO' stamps.


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The top stamp is the beautiful 'long scratch in background' plate variety.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 02.05.2010 13:05    Titel:  

30c DEPOF Inventory

Here are the stamps I currently have:

30c1E1-MA 52

30c1E1-MG 23; 30c1E2-MG 4

30c1E1-MH 7; 30c1E2-MH 2

30c1E1-MI 12; 30c1E2-MI 34

30c1E1-MJI 35; 30c1E2-MJI 1

30c1E1-MM 18

30c1E1-MOP 15; 30c1E2-MOP 17

30c1E1-MRC 20

I do not find any 1E2 for MA, MM, and MRC. Jorge, in Argentina, who has a large number of these, does not find them either.

Here is the MJI 1E2


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BeitragVerfasst am: 02.05.2010 13:06    Titel:  

Newly received 25c and 50c DEPOFs

Here are blocks for MG


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And I also just received used/mint of the 50cMG, a very rare stamp.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 02.05.2010 13:07    Titel:  

Recent find: a 2 pesos clay from 1943

The 2pCL1B of 1943 is the scarcest stamp of the entire issue. I just came across this stamp. Several features of this stamp are give-aways: the stamp is postmarked 1944 (and 1943/44 are the correct years only), the paper is bright white, the watermark is perpendicular, and the ink shows some splatter.


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Here is a comparison 1E1/3.


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The watermark is barely visible, as it should be. The RA is perpendicular to the 1E1/1E3, as it should be.


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Here is a detail showing how the ink tends to splatter on the clay coating.


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These details show differences between the clay printing (top) and printing on the 1E1/1E3 papers (bottom).


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BeitragVerfasst am: 02.05.2010 13:09    Titel:  

The Unusual 25c1Et

The vast majority of the 25c1E1 were printed with the watermark perpendicular to the image of the stamp. This constraint is caused by the use of a paper roll in which only one direction (left or right depending on the relative position of the plate to the roll of paper) is possible. The only way to create the 25c1E1t is to print in pre-cut sheets from the roll that have been rotated 90 degrees. Apparently, this is what happened.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 02.05.2010 13:11    Titel:  

Early use of the 10cBRCL1A on cover

This cover bears a 10cBRCL1A. Although this stamp is not extremely rare (as is the case for the elusive 2pCL1B of 1943) it is rare enough used when compared to the other printings of the 10cBR, most being extremely common, and is extremely rare on cover in 1939. This cover was mailed to Germany.


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Here is the 10cBRCL1A


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...and here is a detail of the date, March 22, 1939. According to Merlo, there is a first day cover in Moscatelli's collection dated Mar 16, 1939.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 02.05.2010 13:13    Titel:  

Doubled background 5p1E4

This stamp has a pronounced doubled background.


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I compare this stamp to a 5p1E3c from the same era.


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These details show the difference.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 02.05.2010 13:14    Titel:  

Three 5p1E3s

These are examples showing the differences between 1E3a and 1E3b.

Here is a 1E3a. The angle between the threads is rectangular.


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...and another 1E3a.


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....and here is a 1E3b. The angle between the threads is square.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 02.05.2010 13:15    Titel:  

Two 5p1E4 Plate Varieties

The first one has missing ink to the TI of ARGENTINA.


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The second one has a small scratch to the last A of ARGENTINA.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 28.05.2010 17:27    Titel:  

Paper taxonomy
I have received many questions about this issue and I think the time has come to have a detailed answer for how I clasify P y R I.

Originally I only thought there were six papers:

First watermark Early, 1E
Unwatermarked grid, NGR
Unwatermarked opaque, NOP
Clay, CL
Second watermark, 2
First watermark late, 1L

In 2006, I saw the Moscatelli exhibit at the Washington 2006 international exhibition. This exhibit showed me that there were something like 16 papers. At first I was unable to absorb so much new information. Moscatelli showed measurements in ranges for the RAs, and I knew from looking at so many of these stamps that these measurement ranges weren't particularly enlightening. Sometime in early 2008 I took a look at my 30c 1Es and noticed clear differences. This was the first time I could see that the 1E2, for instance, is very different from the 1E1. I was able to take the next significant step after Rein taught he how to differentiate the three 1E3s.

This is what I know today:

There are six 1E papers.
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1. 1E1 dates from October 1935 and all of 1936. This paper is thick and cream.
2. 1E2 was used in 1937 and 1938. The watermark is usually perpendicular to the 1E1 watermark. This paper is thin and white.

1E3 is very difficult to type because the key differentiating characteristic is the thread pattern on the back of the stamp.

3. 1E3a of 1939, is identical to 1E1 except that the paper is thinner and white. The grid is rectangular and symmetrical (makes a perfect X on the back of the stamp).
4. 1E3b of 1946/47 has a square symmetrical grid.
5. 1E3c of 1941-44, has an asymmetrical rectangular grid. This X is not drawn from the four corners of the stamp. This stamp is porous, making the grid difficult to see. In addition, it has straight lines over the grid. This is one of the most difficult papers to type.

6. 1E4 of 1940 with large RA perpendicular to the 1E1/3 and the same as the 1E2.

I used to think there was a 1E5, but it turned out to be a later paper (the 1E6).

There are at least four clay papers.
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I still need to study these papers in detail. So far, I find at least four:

7. CL1A, with watermark same as the 1E4 but with a light coating on the printed surface. This paper was used for the 5c and 10c Brown typographed stamps during 1939/40. This 10c Brown is very rare on cover.
8. CL1B, 30c, 1p, 2p (the rare one, with dark colors), 20p of 1943. I classify the 40c with dark colors from 1948 as this paper, but I still need to study this stamp in detail.
9. CL2A, 1949 for the 10c, some with very dark blackish brown color.
10. CL2B, 1952, the thin clays, 40c light colors, 50c, 2p.

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11. Straight Rays diffuse watermark on cream paper from 1943, the 2D. The rarest of these is the elusive 1/2c.
12. Straight Rays clear watermark on white paper from 1949, the 2C. This watermark is found in two directions, meaning that there are two separate types of the watermark roll used to make the paper.

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13. Unwatermarked grid of 1945, NGR.
14. Unwatermarked opaque of 1947/8, NOP. There may be a second NOP for the 20p, which I find used in the mid 1950s.

The late papers.
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These are best studied using the 50c.

15. 1L1, with straight lines on the back, same watermark as the 1E1/3s, and brilliant colors like the 2C stamp.
16. 1L2 of 1952, big RA, similar paper to the 1E3c.
17. 1L3 of 1955/6, thick white paper with small RA, the 50c has a deep yellow shade for the background.
18. 1L4 similar to the 1L2 but with disfigured RAs from a worn out watermark roll. I doubted their existence but I keep finding them.

19. 1L5, all Zarate. There are at least two: white and onion paper.
20. 1L6, similar to the 1L3 but with a clear rectangular symmetrical grid.
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BeitragVerfasst am: 06.06.2010 13:12    Titel:  

The 20cLC1E4

Rein has recently discovered this stamp. At first I did not believe it, but here it is. It was 'under my nose' all along. The top row are 2D and the bottom row are 1E4.


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2D stamps in more detail


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1E4 stamps in more detail


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BeitragVerfasst am: 06.06.2010 13:41    Titel:  

20cLC plates printed in wrong order

The first specimen, 1E3, has normal order and is shown here for reference.


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The two specimens below have the background plate printed over the foreground plate. Both are NGR.


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If you look carefully at the D and the E of GANADERIA the background lines are clearly visible.


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